The ledge that is cut into the end of the neck is the tension hoop rabbet. Nicely done! It's a one evening job. wfawley - Posted - 04/25/2011:  19:02:34. Finish Type: Nickel Plated, Raw Brass. Bonuscup98 - Posted - 04/26/2011:  07:46:16. Flat Gabon Ebony fingerboard with frets scalloped after 17th. Dowel stick day! Please note this is an archived topic, so it … What would be a ballpark price to have another one like that crafted? Three-piece neck brace tightens the neck to the rim, and fits dowel sticks up to 13/16" (20.64mm) square. I made this one as a friendly gesture for a customer whose banjo stayed here way too long. Thanks for looking and best of luck! Related products. Rosewood Peghead Plate - Planetary Tuners. Nice job Wyatt! All Rights Reserved. Thanks for showing all the stuff lately. This may be silly and a little off topic, but: what function does the dowel stick ferrule serve? For old-time "dowel-stick" neck-to-rim attachment. Banjo Dowel Ferrule -9/16" nickel plated. Install the neck using the neck brace which wedges against a steel pin in the dowel stick. Clean. Exclusive: 15% Off Aluminum Radius-sanding Beams, Find the proper fret position with the official Stewart-MacDonald Fret Calculator, Stewart-MacDonald is PCI compliant and validated for secure e-commerce. Ball End for use at end of Dowel Stick USD $ 4.50 – USD $ 4.55. Any suggestions or things to avoid doing are much appreciated. Nice little project and looks great. The dowel can take different forms. This is fashioned from one of my eBay junk buys ... a silver plated german silver covered serving dish. I clamped the walnut in the vise and used the double faced tape to hold the piece. This part took the longest, only because we wanted to make sure we go it right. The End Pin Screw holds the other end of the dowel stick firmly against the inside of the rim. To use a decorative metal ferrule, the stick must be tapered to 5/8" square at the tailpiece end. The neck is starting to take it's… A lot of things come into consideration here, like the height of the tone ring, and the depth of the rim. Dowel Stick Assembly $ 24.95 – $ 26.95 Select options; End bolt w/ nut $ 4.50 – $ 4.55 Select options; Ferrule $ 6.49 – $ 6.69 Select options; Single shims $ 1.33 Add to cart; Products. £13.69 Add to Cart. The dowel sttick wasn't even dented ... until I staked it in place on the underside. Dowel Stick Ferrule. 5/16″ Hex Open Ball End Tension Nut USD $ 1.30 – USD $ 1.35. After that;s been accomplished you can actually super glue the dowel stick to the ferrule, making sure it's centered. Once everything was lined up and center was found, we then moved the banjo neck up, so that the fretboard would be flush with the banjo head. Banjo Lovers Online. The dowel stick is not there to change the angle of the neck, you have to do surgery on the neck itself for that unless the dowel has slipped, in which case it has to be reset in the neck. About This Item. One tip I learned is to use a razor blade like a card scraper for delicate smoothing. Dowel stick is 10 1/2" long. $6.50. If you continue, we will assume that you agree to our privacy policy which includes details of cookie usage. I may do an exposition on pearwood repairs. Ferrule fits over the end of the dowel stick. The use of a neck brace requires a small hole for the brace pin that is usually located a little less than 1/2″ from the inside surface of the rim. Now you need to lay out and execute the same kind of lines for each side of the dowel stick. That metal looks fairly thick... Wyatt makes stuff like this look way easier than it really is.  ARCHIVED TOPIC: make your own Fairbanks style "long" dowel stick ferrule, Please note this is an archived topic, so it is locked and unable to be replied to. The only issue is that the headstock overlay has cracks in it(see photo) Fingerboard and frets are good(see photo) Bone nut good. The maple dowel stick held up just fine. Mar 2, 2015 - The banjo dowel stick brings the rim and the neck together. We use cookies to ensure that we give you the best experience on our website. Don't make a new nut just to fix a low slot—fill it! This was done with a piece of metal, a jeweler's saw, a 3 corner file, a hammer, a 5/8" cold chisel that I used as a mandrel, and sanding sticks ...my home made version of an emery board. If you continue without changing your settings, you're agreeing to receive all cookies on the StewMac website. Jan 10, 2020 - The banjo dowel stick brings the rim and the neck together. I'm curious how many folks will know what draw filing is. Scribe around the pattern and cut it out with the jeweler's saw.  Other Banjo-Related Topics Learn clawhammer from the beginning, with basic technique exercises and lots of great old-time and traditional songs to play. The location of the rim dowel stick hole is interdependent with the location of the neck dowel stick hole. I never considered that a person might want to sell one. The little ball has a hole in it that allows the tailpiece to fasten to it. Also, the price was too steep compared to the same parts found elsewhere. My project entailed more time making little metal bending forms to bend the metal over to ensure some level of precision than the clip bending actually took. DVD-quality lessons (including tabs/sheet music) available for immediate viewing on any device. Hide these Google ads: join the Players Union! sku: BA53. £48.50 Add to Cart. I turned the dowel end on a maple 1 x 1 and glued it into the neck drilled dowel hole. Take your playing to the next level with the help of a local or online banjo teacher. Notice the small hole in the side of the dowel stick. The hardware is beautiful but the ferrule is way too large to use on the neck stick. Likely in the very early 1900's.It mounts inside the banjo between the dowel stick and the head.It is spring loaded and you can move it along the dowel stick to the position that gives you the desired sound.There is also an adjustable thumb screw to add pressure.Although I haven't seen many of these, the most … It was made by Grover. No issues with the dowel stick. I've a few banjo projects in the works and one required making a new dowel stick for a banjo neck. Manufactured in house. If you look close at this picture, you can see where I have the position of the lines scribed. If you've done it right, it should look like this.. Friom this point you just need to dress the surfaces flat and polish them. £10.88 Banjo Dowl Neck Brace -Vega style, nickel plated. and finally polishing with the dremel and simichrome. Fancy Early Dowel Stick Ferrule. The maker is a well known banjo maker from PA. Nice banjo with a great sound but hard for me to play. Shaped, inlaid, fretted and finished—feels and plays great! The 3/4″ sides will face the front and back of the banjo. The completed "crease" should be half the thickness of the material. The pattern could use tweaking. The dowel stick is a vestigial design and construction element descended from “spiked lutes” that came over from West Africa during the American and Caribbean slave trade. Dowel stick ferrule in nickel.removed from a 1920's Vega banjo. It also adds a nice dressed appearance for the inside of your new banjo rim. Banjo Dowel Ferrule, nickel plated brass, 9/16" square internally and 5/8" square externally, it is made to slide on to the dowel, helps to prevent damage to the dowel while enhancing the look of your banjo by making tidy join between the dowel and rim. I have an openback with dowel stick and would like to shim it as the action is too high. I finished carving the dowel stick and put on a brass ferrule, it is ready for the first coat of oil. All hardware is unplated brass. Actually, the part I forgot to describe is how ... you basically fold it over the dowel stick initially, then use the mandrel to get the corners nice  and square. Search for: Product Categories. I got to the backside of this thing and had to saw little triangular pieces off of each side to even it up. ... ARCHIVED TOPIC: Dowel Stick Ferrrule - does it do anything? The jig holds the neck so that the dowel stick hole comes in at the same angle that the neck meets the rim, about 3 degrees. Very similar to vintage Vega hardware! Is it just decorative, or does it prevent splitting or what? The only problem I had was that I wrung off the screw of the endbolt during installation and had the rim stick permanently attached with no way to adjust string height. I'll do that later. I needed a dowel stick ferrule for my friend's Cole's butterfly neck, and wanted to use the early style. Cherry and Walnut Neck w/ Truss Rod - 1.25-inch nut. Endbolt fastens the dowel stick to the rim, and holds the tailpiece. I'm into it for 10 dollars, and I have most of it left. wfawley - Posted - 04/27/2011:  16:46:49. 5/16″ Hex Open Ball End Tension Nut USD $ … If you continue, we will assume that you agree to. Banjo Dowl End Anchor Bolt-nickel plated brass finial. We use cookies to ensure that we give you the best experience on our website. Banjo Dowel Hardware. Peghead Nation Instructor Evie Ladin Banjo Hardware | End Pin Screw. Made in the USA, these ferrules come in either Brass or Nickel Plated Brass. Build the pedal that redefined overdrive. One end of the screw has wood threads and the other has machine threads and a little brass ball that screws onto it. Making all the bends precisely enough to fit snugly around the dowel means deciding whether to measure on the outside or the inside to compensate for the metals thickness. I bought these parts for a "1926 Vega mandolin banjo". It has an 11' wood pot with dowel stick construction. The hardware is extremely important to make all the parts fit properly. If you continue, we will assume that you agree to our privacy policy which includes details of cookie usage. Use the two holes in the other side to attach to the dowel stick. Also, the neck should cover the place where the outermost lamination of the rim meets itself, so try to center the hole on that joint. Beautiful banjo custom build for a Geneticist/Biologist from Rhode Island: Bacote Fretboard (scooped) and Peghead Plate Cherry neck with Walnut strip Block cherry rim with Walnut end cap Cumaru tone ring (Janka Hardness: 3,330 lbf) - Very hard Walnut dowel Handcrafted Dowel Stick Hardwoods 1/2-inch copper ferrule 5/8-inch dowel Custom Neck Brace Exotic wood Steel pin reinforced Other hardwoods or laminates available Discussion Forum. Pearl dot inlay markers. This is a Vega Style N 17 fret banjo neck and dowel stick off a 1926 Vega banjo. Elapsed time for the project start to finish is about 2 hours. I have a Bacon Super Banjo 17 fret neck that somebody truss rodded and it's pretty much a mess now.I can restore it though. Additional information. Dowel Stick Banjos Banjos with dowel sticks are more difficult to adjust than those with coordinator rods because the dowel itself isn’t adjustable. Maple Fretboard - 26 3/16 scale - 22 fret. I have a 12 volt dremel type rotary tool that's low RPM and it works great for polishing. This is an unique style of banjo mute. DON'T MISS A BEAT, sign up for StewMac news. The Electric tone ring become much more substantial with the original 1/8" diameter upper ring replaced with a 1/4" diameter ring, the wooden pot becoming thicker, and the scalloped ring much heavier. We use cookies to ensure that we give you the best experience on our website. (Thanks to Frank Ford of Gryphon Music for that tip). shipping $5 in the lower 48 states. I recently built my first banjo using a dowel stick instead of coordinator rods. Wyatt's dowel stick ferrule required a fair amount of planning, at least it would for me. I didn't have much of a way to hold the ferrule while filing the creases, double faced tape works OK ... but it does want to rotate some, so you have to be careful and take your time. Tried and true, this method makes for a very strong joint as well as easy disassembly. Also, Bart Reiter sends a dowel-stick tip. I have to finish John's banjo tonight but I wanted to share this. I started out by locating a piece of my german silver and the pattern, which I'll scan and make available in my photo albums for anybody who wants to try this. Once you take the dowel stick off, either by twisting it off, meliting the glue with steam or sawing at the base, then you cans see if the neck is properly cut. It is typically drilled using a jig with the Shop Smith or the drill press, and a 3/4″ forstner bit. For old-time "dowel-stick" neck-to-rim attachment. Then replace the tailpiece end screw/bolt with a shorter nut and bolt that runs through the slot you made in the bracket. We use cookies to ensure that we give you the best experience on our website. When the neck is finished, glue in the stick. As a long time Stew Mac customer, I'm afraid I will have to shop around next time.. Good parts for a new build or replacing an old end bolt. Handmade Cherry neck, rim and dowel stick. Again, just scribe the line right off the dowel stick you'll be using. Payments expected within 48 hours Returns accepted if item is not as described Vintage Bacon Banjo Dowel Stick Brace The dowel stick brings the banjo neck and the banjo rim together.  Banjo Building, Setup, and Repair Perfect scale for this banjolele project. All Forums Ferrule – Dowel Stick USD $ 18.00 – USD $ 19.00. Terms of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright 2021 Banjo Hangout. I just had a similar "little" project making stainless steel brackets to invisibly hold a wooden armrest on a new banjo, I had a lot more leeway in that they didn't show (there's some pics of the armrest on my home page). The level of craftsmanship evident here on the hangout never ceases to amaze me and how these talented folks were attracted to banjos is another wonder. The dowel can take different forms. Cherry peghead veneer. His skill levels run pretty high in a variety of individual crafts running the gamete from woodworking to silversmith/jewelry and a whole range of crafts in between. That hole will be used for the neck brace pin. Your hardware finished the job and made a nice tight neck on my banjolin. All hardware is nickel-plated. The Old Timer - Posted - 04/25/2011:  07:52:09. File enough relief on all four sides to let the ferrule slide on for a snug flush fit. This Redtail Dobson 11″ banjo is quite good and very resonant. How kind of Wyatt to share that! Fender's most popular pick shape in different materials. I have no sheet metal brake. The dowel stick facilitates the use of a neck brace, which helps to hold the heel of the neck tight against the rim. Because adjusting the neck angle on a banjo with a dowel stick can be more involved, it’s usually recommended that an expert handle any adjustments needed. Fortunately, I was able to use a T-bracket to fasten the tailpiece since the banjo has a resonator. Nice work Wyatt! Block Maple 11-inch Rim - Stained brown I ship worldwide. Hide these Google ads: join the … Inside dimensions ~9/16" x 9/16". Take a Dremel tool and create an elongated slot from the two original holes on one side of the bracket. Brass Gotoh tuners with black buttons. Search The Store. Banjo Lovers Online. 14 hooks and nuts. This week, Don MacRostie invents a new technique for an old technology: he shows how to accurately install a banjo dowel stick. One question, how to avoid bashing up the dowel stick when using the dead blow hammer to "fold" that metal around the stick? Weekly newsletter includes free lessons, favorite member content, banjo news and more. Ferrule – Dowel Stick USD $ 18.00 – USD $ 19.00 View Product Details. This traditional dowel stick Ferrule is designed to go on the end of a 5/8″ x 5/8″ square dowel stick to keep the end from spitting when attaching the end bolt and nut. Grooved tension hoop. Clamp the dowel stick with the ferrule glued to it into the vise and using a dead blow hammer, fold the ferrule around the edges of the dowel stick. 'Where The Dim Lights Are The Dimmest - all backup' 1 hr, 'Swallow's Tail/ John Naughton's(Reels)' 1 hr, 'I guess it's easier to break the normal clawhammer mode sometimes' 6 hrs, '4 Kat Eyz banjo bridges 5/8" Crowe spacing' 8 hrs. Ball End for use at end of Dowel Stick USD $ 4.50 – USD $ 4.55 View Product Details. Many banjos feature a steel rod that serves as a dowel stick. http://www.banjohangout.org/archive/205312, 'Where The Dim Lights Are The Dimmest - all backup', 'I guess it's easier to break the normal clawhammer mode sometimes', '4 Kat Eyz banjo bridges 5/8" Crowe spacing'. We use cookies on our website to make sure you get the best experience. Take your playing to the next level with the help of a local or online banjo teacher. Then it's the sequence of the bends so you don't hem yourself in with a bend you can't "get at". In the below picture, I've already draw filed and sanded the thing a good bit, and it's ready to be polished, Edited by - wfawley on 04/24/2011 20:55:23, blm10jn - Posted - 04/25/2011:  05:45:21, German Silver is readily available from Rio Grande Jewelry Supply. Gold EVO frets. Learn clawhammer from the beginning, with basic technique exercises and lots of great old-time and traditional songs to play. Once you have the last 2 surfaces folded, the ones on the underside, yopu can stake them in place with a center punch. Every Pisgah Banjo is constructed with a traditional dowel stick. Thanks... Dave. Email Newsletter. Lay the dowel stick on the ferrule and scribe lines on either side along the edge. The V grooves that allow the metal to fold make all the difference. Raw Brass or Nickel Plated finish. I used a graver to start the grooves that allow it to be folded where you want it to fold, but a scribe will work ... just keep scribing along a straight edge until you have a deep enough line for the file to grab. You may, however, start a new topic and refer to this topic with a link: http://www.banjohangout.org/archive/205312, wfawley - Posted - 04/24/2011:  20:52:17, I don't know that I took enough pictures of this procedure to escape a lot of typing, but here goes. I could have used some instructions on the neck brace, but I managed. Thanks, Wyatt. Ferrule – Dowel Stick. The dowel stick hole can be drilled either before or after the neck has had its radius cut. Weekly newsletter includes free lessons, favorite member content, banjo news and more. Dec 25, 2017 - August 16.2019 As I'd mentioned before, the Vega that I'm working on had fret slots that were no longer holding the frets in. Square, nickel plated sleeve for the tailpiece end of an openback banjo dowel stick. I think. Banjo Lovers Online. The Banjo Challenge; Find a Teacher. The frets themselves were also no longer working after having seen some rather strange wear. The improved version of the classic Fender Strat Bridge. So there was a bunch of trials on other pieces of wood, before we drill the holes for the dowel stick. This material was probably about .015 thick, and the grooves were half that deep, so it folds right over. falconeman - Posted - 04/26/2011:  09:29:49, iluvearl - Posted - 04/27/2011:  15:23:19. I guess folks that think high school shop class is a waste of time aren't interested in anything that is made by hand by a skilled artisan any longer. So, the first job was to narrow the slots, To do that, I use some plastic slips… ... All Forums Other Banjo-Related Topics Shopping Advice: ARCHIVED TOPIC: vega style dowel stick ferrule. Many banjos feature a steel rod that serves as a dowel stick. There are a few shop techniques that I consider rudimentary and more or less indispensable, but often I'm shocked to learn that they aren't widely known of or used. I was surprised how reasonably you can get a good enough beginner open back banjo from Amazon. One buggered up bend and it's start over time with a new piece of metal. . Not a kit, this guitar is finished, assembled and wired!