nope, not yet i still having the problem engine light is still on and i have to keep turning on the Remote start on the DIC buttons when i turn off my truck. Start/stop is akin to excrement smeared on the steering wheel and my “free to experimenters system” cleans it right up. I have found the system will not reactivate until its next cycle when you stop again .. iv got that problem also is it a 07 Sierra, mines Extended cab. Select YES to clear the Cadillac check engine light. Check Engine Light. I’m lucky, my 19 Cruze has the disable switch. If your car isn’t feeling jerky or strange when the check engine light comes on, the first thing you should check is the gas cap. Between things like start stop and the crazy pricing of GM vehicles, GM may lose a 73 year old lifetime customer. Check engine light codes should only be cleared (erased) only after the problem that triggered the light has been fixed. The 1975 model year cars did not have the interlock. https://www.theicct.org/sites/default/files/publications/Off-Cycle-Credits_ICCT-White-Paper_vF_20180327.pdf. We welcome your submissions. If I always do this in urban driving will it hurt the engine or transmission in any way? Stupid again. Try it; leave your hood open and use the key-fob to remote start, or use remote start and then open your hood before turning the ignition on. We know, advertisements are annoying and slow down the internet. it’s totally stupid, unless you drive in a ton of stop and go traffic. I have also found that driving in a Manual mode will prevent the feature from activating . The second bad thing I noticed was if I was carefully pulling into a parking spot. 9. what the hell is all the complaining the system works and is not a inconvenience it helps with emissions and mpg –lets put on our big boy pants. We have a Malibu with the 1.5, and it hasn’t failed us yet. Even if they eased the current ones, I wonder if the manufacturers would bother to change their cars. The customer is entirely secondary. However the fact that my v6 2019 Buick Regal GS still has the feature active when in GS or Sport mode is a design flaw or grosse oversight. 8. So as these cars get on in age JUST MORE REPAIR COST! So, here’s a new tip for those who hate the system. This lasted until congress went home for summer recess. I believe for around $140, I can get rid of the annoyance in my 2019 Equinox!!!!!!!!!! Ended up trading the car on a more budget-friendly Chevrolet Spark Electric. I dislike the fact that the engine will run forever as I’m siting in a drive-thru. 11. a very happy camper. Once you have read the codes and fixed the underlying problem, you can come back to clear Cadillac CEL codes. Thanks for the info on the stop start. I would have paid more. ENGINE START/STOP Button. As someone that has owned several GM vehicles with remote start I can tell you it is by design the remote start will NOT work while an error/check engine light exists, this isn't an indication something is wrong with remote start, hope this helps, I've experienced this on both my 2006 g6 and my 2007 Yukon Denali xl in my case both were caused by bad gas and after putting good gas back in … Come on fellas, are you really going to let something so minor influence your buying decision? The tree huggers see this as saving the world……….. The negative of this solution is most GM (and other OEMs) remote engine start programming will not work if the hood is open; the car thinks it could possibly be stolen if it’s running and someone can gain access to the wiring. All GM vehicles should have a disable switch like FORD. And the CRV is “assembled” in AMERICA. In fact, third-party solutions that aim to bypass engine auto-stop-start often take advantage of the open hood workaround  What these systems do is wire a timer relay to the hood sensor. Plug it in a problem is gone, I will bet GM will change the way this works in order to circumvent this bypass especially now that TRUMP is gone and there is nothing to protect us from the nimrods at the epa. An active check engine light will prevent the remote start from working. Not due to any fear of failure as they are reliable. Of course not. If there is any problem with starting, then the horn will sound. Notify me of followup comments via e-mail. It is my understanding that as soon as the EPA tried to implement a granule of this plan that someone sued and the judge said, “Nope the EPA is not allowed to change the mileage standards back 🤯 insanity.”. When the function activates itself after a complete stop , I quickly take my foot OFF the brake then reapply the brake again . Wow saving so much fuel and saving the environment . The remote start system will not work if: The ignition is on. The system will not allow the engine to be remotely started and left to … If you are at a stop sign at the same time as a police officer, let’s see if you can get away with not putting a hard stop at that stop sign. I really hate to scare you, but I heard yesterday that the Cruze is probably the worst car ever built by Chevy. Thanks for the input! I don’t care who writes the paycheck. Easier said than done, as you won’t typically understand the impact of it until you’ve lived with it for a while. We’ve already covered the diverse opinions on the tech and how to disable the feature. So as thousands of cars at stop lights, there will be many people getting out of their vehicle to push the car of pop the hood and will get slammed by passing vehicles. Price is fair and worth every penny for most people. Since living in Florida for 30 years, car batteries do not last in this extreme heat and almost everyone I had failed is almost immediate. Trust me automakers could do much better without these systems as all they do is complicate and add weight/cost to the vehicles. On the Mazda, just unscrew the switch by the hood latch, move it out of the way, and the iStop (i.e. He tried to, but it turned into a legal battle with California and a few other “progressive” states. Unfortunately, this is how we pay the bills and our authors. And as I exited the vehicle, the engine sprang back to life because I let my foot off the brake. It’s pretty easy to wire a switch or momentary button to that hood position sensor. Government is pushing manufacturers to do it. I see, when the brains were handed out, you received a membrane, instead. Small towns don’t want you driving straight through town; they want you stopped & looking at the ads for coffee, milk, beer, donuts, etc etc. Big brother got you to do exactly what THEY wanted you to do, NOT what made you happy! Wouldn’t it be a novel thing for the car companies to give the customers what they want? Check your local and state or provincial laws for specific requirements regarding remote start systems. For cars made here, most of those “inner circle” outfits are hiring Janes and Joes, while “American” companies hire Pedro and Maria. And not only do the Car’s prophets go back to Japan, most of the parts are from Japanese only suppliers in the “inner circle”. General Motors and several other manufacturers told us that doing so would run the battery down. Hazard Warning Flashers 0 125. There is always the option of maintaining awareness of start-stop, and then purchasing models without those engines. It never hurts to experiment and you won’t damage anything .. If you dislike the engine running when at a drive thru, then shut it off like I do sometimes. And on the cobalt, it’s even armed the security alarm. The general public raised hell to a degree not often seen. In fact, it was so bad (IMO) that I kept the car about 10 months and traded it because I hated it so much (start/stop, not the car). Once the code is cleared, the remote start will work as normal. When you consider the special connectors that are required to interface the circuit, the waterproof enclosure the electronics are built into so you wont have any issues with moisture and the life time warranty smartstartstop that comes with and you cant beat it. Were you able to find out what is causing it? You disable the feature. When the vehicle is not running or in accessory mode, the relay causes the ECU to “see” an open hood regardless of what the sensor actually reads. That makes sense in this millennium world we live in, do anything besides keeping the customer happy. Call your broker. The owner's manual states that if the check engine light is on the remote start will not work. I do disable my START STOP by shifting into “L” ( LOW) and by using the auto-shift I advance the transmission to “6”……..this disables Start-Stop until you shut down or go to another gear, I always wear my big girl pants but I hate it because we travel a lot & our dog goes with us. In this case, you should come straight to our service center or have the vehicle towed to prevent any damage to the engine.. Go to http://www.smartstartstop.com You can buy a small plug in that fits under the hood, takes less than three minutes to install and defeats start stop. Obviously, this is not an annoying enough issue for you. Push on the horn knob in the steering wheel and hold for 30 seconds. Also, after a few unsuccessful remote sart attempts, you need to start manually start your Jeep to reset the system. The workaround for our 2018 Traverse is even easier than this. The engine will stay on if you apply gentle, limited force to the brake pedal. Think about it; when was the last time you drove through a small town and didn’t get held up at a red light. The alarm system is triggered. I’d rather waste a few pennies in wasted gasoline, than to wear out my engine, starter, and battery at every stop/start event, which will be a lot most costly. Oh yay dealers love more profit from repairs, that could be one reason they put garbage like that in their cars the dealers are complaining they do not make enough money from their new car sales! The GM charging system reads system voltage through a wire and fuse on top of the + battery terminal to evaluate the capacity of the battery to handle start/stop when the car is started. Check engine light on, note said "key fob battery low" I changed the battery in both fobs and now I get a message "remote disabled start car to reset" when I remote start the car it turns on but 10 secs later it turns off. 12. It worked fine but once I shut off the truck and restarted it the light came back on. If the ‘Check Engine Light’ or Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL) is illuminated, the remote start will not work. Reseal the cap, restart the car, and retry step #1! See Automatic Headlamp System 0 124. I’ll soon be driving my new 2021 Durango R/T.. the last of the V8s as Mad Max put it, with the ASS permanently disabled using a piece of McGuyver’s aluminum foil. We are currently looking for experienced automotive journalists and editors to join our team.  Make $60k-$80k per year doing what you love.  We are also looking for an experienced forum moderator to join our team.Â, Want to see your GM ride featured on GM Authority? Light Sensor. American society is currently permeated by it. It will be a losing battle, states will pass laws on overriding the ASS feature until someone real important is killed or a massive death auto accident occured because of it. I noticed this since the check engine light came on. I recall cars for the 1974 model year that had a seat belt interlock system that prevented starting the car unless the belt was fastened. I have a 2007 impala. I’m old. What is the point of stop/start for fuel economy when you have the transmission and awd set to its most aggressive state. When so call foreign companies transfer profits from the USA to their country, they generally lose millions in the monetary exchange. Please whitelist our site in your adblocker, refresh the page, and enjoy! 10. It’s way more then a resistor. First press the lock key to lock all the doors, then within three seconds press the remote start button twice on your key fob. Its more to prevent someone from auto-starting the car by accident while their fingers are poking around the engine compartment really. California is not longer part of this world, California is the only place in the US with any culture. Opinions on engine auto-stop-start technology are scattershot: some enjoy the technology and its attempt to increase fuel efficiency, some are indifferent, and the rest downright hate the feature and will go to great lengths to turn the system off at every opportunity, especially in vehicles that don’t offer a way to disable the feature. Same thing. there are over 17 sensors that have to work in unison to make this system work. I remember when the customers were always right. Infotainment Controls. You are using an out of date browser. One of the most shocking experiences of my life and scared me to death. Great advise from Tom G, the TRUE whiner who might not be inconvenienced by the feature or have had his family almost killed by the feature, as we actually rolled into traffic while the motor was shutoff. © COPYRIGHT 2021 POWERED BY LSX V8 ENGINES, LOVE & REVERENCE. Did not come back on until Saturday, but this time the red battery light came on next to the "A" with the circle around it. Posted on Jan 24, 2011 Helpful 0 Your email address will not be published. My circuit includes a starter type relay that immediately shorts the resistor out of the circuit when the ignition is turned on so the charging system can work normally. I am not mad at GM over this as this is more a government deal and they are just trying to give us what we want and jump though the hoops to do it that they are given. that would save more gas and reduce more emissions than anything. Start/Stop systems are fuel saving systems that allow a gasoline-powered engine to shut down at typical idle times, such as at red lights, and restart with the touch of the gas pedal. But my vote for worse Chevy would go to the Vega. Stupid as it gets. worth every penny for those who don’t want stop start and can’t make their own bypass. I was wondering if there was anyone else who had this problem and what was the issue? What they COULD do is program it like BMW, and let the engine run for 5 seconds, in case you’re at a stop sign, or another short stop. Clear Codes. This prevents the engine auto-stop-start system from operating while guaranteeing that the pesky open hood indicator light disappears with the rest of the warnings that flicker to life upon starting a vehicle with an open hood. California has essentially seceded from the U.S. without going through the paper work. I opened the door to check the engine, fortunately traffic was light. I checked the codes and turns out i got the car with the catalytic converter missing. This works. If you find yourself in rush hour traffic, it would be easy enough to just quickly shut off the engine and restart it when you are a a complete stop to enable it. To take advantage of the workaround, one would need to pop the hood (before starting the vehicle), start the car with the hood open, and then shut the hood. Pure and simple. I foresee a lot of engine lights on, as my vehicle ages and many of these sensors are specifically for the stop start system only. Don’t panic, one of the reasons the MIL can illuminate is due to a loose gas cap! I agree & the Rube Goldberg example is spot on. We would love for you to enjoy our content, we've worked hard on providing it. There’s a couple transistors, 555 timer most likely, 2 capacitors, and a circuit printed out on a board. Opening the hood every time you start the car sounds rather laborious. Not ALL of the profits go back to Japan. Power Outlets 0 93. Start your automobile and let the engine to heat up a little, the check engine light should automatically go OFF. Arminius (me) explained a system that works flawlessly in Cadillac forums for my XT5. That would be the reason your vehicle did not start when you tried it. The iStop/ESS already wears out the engine at every start, wears out the starter, and wears out the battery. If a problem occurs, the engine can be restarted using the Start/Stop button. To change direction and change again would be deathly expensive. You need to have the systems scanned to fine the cause for the light. Totally understand the need for stop/start given the government standards. You can also subscribe without commenting. i do need a battery change had mine since 07 so i need to change that and if the problem resumes ill just take it to GM. Mostly due to the fact that I just hate that drop out and pick up of the engine. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Odds are it depends on the numbers they are wanting for the credits and if the government will let them have it. One more reason to buy a Camaro and enjoy life a little. Mitsubishi, and Subaru (formerly Fuji Heavy Industries) that you want. For around-the-clock GM news coverage. Works great. We’ll need a new casualty item, dead car battery syndrome. The exterior lights of the vehicle will flash twice to indicate that the engine has started. In general it all depends on how you apply the brake. Can you imagine how many times the engine could restart just at a drive thru window? This is the 3.6 V6. The point I’m trying to make is the mfr’s should have realized that in this “game” they’re all on the same team and made the point to the gov’t that the ROI in emissions saved vs dollars spent would have been much higher if the focus would have been on the “low hanging fruit” instead of technology that very few like or trust. The system would constantly shut off and then have to re-start immediately. Check engine light and stop/start assist service light came on and MPH dropped from 55 to 30 MPH and transmission temp rose to 210 degrees. Go to the Erase Codes menu. I guess I may have to take it to the dealer to see what the issue is. It may also start again if your battery needs re-charging. Reseal the cap, restart the car, and retry step #1! Their money stays here. I had a 2014 Chevrolet Malibu and really liked the car except for the auto start/stop feature. I test drove 2 escapes in different states when auto stop firs came out big in 2018, both salesmen “warmed the car up” for me and disabled stop start. Don’t tell me you will get used to it…………..that’s a sad excuse for GM. They plug into the OBD port and can be installed in less than 60 seconds with no cutting or tools requires. The vehicle cannot be remote started if the key is in the ignition, the hood is not closed, or if there is an emission control system malfunction and the check engine light is on. Start/Stop unavailable message appeared on Wednesday with no sign of any other trouble, and went away once I turned it off and back on. However, that only came with the start/stop feature, so I went with the lower HP/Torque engine and it’s just fine. Automatic Stop-Start In 70 Percent Of 2019 Model-Year GM Vehicles Sold In The U.S. Required fields are marked *. The engine will either not start at all, or shut off every time. How long are you stationary before the engine quits? As someone that has owned several GM vehicles with remote start I can tell you it is by design the remote start will NOT work while an error/check engine light exists, this isn't an indication something is wrong with remote start, hope this helps, I've experienced this on both my 2006 g6 and my 2007 Yukon Denali xl in my case both were caused by bad gas and after putting good gas back in check engine light went out and remote start worked again, maybe try different gas station, in both cases my vehicles didn't run differently I'm guessing the knock sensors are overly sensitive. I have a 2019 Chevy EQUINOX, 1.5 TURBO. Wayne, trust me when I say the money is worth it considering it is plug and play without any damage to the existing vehicle wiring and its easily removed if you need to go in for warranty service. It may not display this or other websites correctly. The check engine light came on recently and the car would’nt start, took it to the dealer and of course the special “auto stop battery” has to be replaced at a cost of $500. It baffles the brain why GM would put something so ridiculous in a car or truck, suv! Works when I park my car. If the vehicle came from the factory with remote start, it may be connected. It really saves little if any gas. Another comment-maker talked about the Japanese “inner circle” of suppliers. I don’t have any idea what this “technology” has cost the manufacturers & which cost has subsequently been passed on to the consumers has amounted to, but I would make the argument that more emissions could have been “saved”, less fuel wasted, and millions of consumers dollars saved if something as simple as more efficient timing of stop lights was implemented. PONDERING, What if we disconnected the small battery for the stop/start that would possibly work if a dash light did not stay on?. Also, the engine will turn off during a remote vehicle start if the coolant temperature gets too high or if the oil pressure gets low.